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« on: October 13, 2007, 03:44:07 PM »

MSN says Zune is ugly.

http://www.pmptoday.com/2007/10/13/msn-says-zune-is-ugly-bt-have-they-seen-the-mini-all-vx1000/
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« Reply #1 on: October 13, 2007, 04:47:01 PM »

The writer should be beaten with a box of rocks. Whoops, I mean ipods.
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« Reply #2 on: October 13, 2007, 05:16:48 PM »

"I’ll never accuse MSN of brand loyalty, tat is after admitting the Zune, especially the Brown Zune is one of the worst design disasters for a consumer product. "

"worst design disasters"
Can someone clue me into how this is the case?

I've long ago stopped believing that tech writers had even the slightest bit of intelligence ever since they stopped writing like adults and started writing like bloggers.

And btw, isn't this supposed MSN critique really just a cut-n-paste article from PC World that is on MSN?
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« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2007, 05:42:40 PM »

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And btw, isn't this supposed MSN critique really just a cut-n-paste article from PC World that is on MSN?

Yes your right I think, but this still does not give MSN an excuse for dissing Zune IMO. This is what I think happen.

1. MSN gets news/info from many other sites and news partners like PC Magazine. This news was posted on their Tech & Gadget page without them knowing the Zune image was there. Maybe it was put on the front page by mistake.

2. They just did not review the info by PC World before it was put on the site.  This was an error by MSN.  In fact the news is not even on the Tech & Gadget page or even listed. Either way it was a big screwup and made Zune look bad.  It is funny that an Appleblog was the first to notice this mistake and blog the news.  MSN is just lucky this blunder news did not get leaked to so many Tech news/blog sites like Engadget and Gizmodo.
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« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2007, 05:49:57 PM »


Correction:

"PC World says Zune is ugly. "
Which is pretty much normal stuff from PC World. They have made a career out of trashing Microsoft products.
Sadly, MSN continues posts articles from their partner sites, even if they are crap.
I have heard worse. Nothing new here.
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« Reply #5 on: October 13, 2007, 06:04:33 PM »


Correction:

"PC World says Zune is ugly. "
Which is pretty much normal stuff from PC World. They have made a career out of trashing Microsoft products.
Sadly, MSN continues to post articles from their partner sites, even if they are crap.
I have heard worse. Nothing new here.
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« Reply #6 on: October 13, 2007, 06:19:12 PM »


Correction:

"PC World says Zune is ugly. "
Which is pretty much normal stuff from PC World. They have made a career out of trashing Microsoft products.
Sadly, MSN continues posts articles from their partner sites, even if they are crap.
I have heard worse. Nothing new here.

I've noticed that too. I used to love reading PC World, but ever since they decided to run Apple products, they have become a type of wannabe MacWorld. Constant trashing of PCs and Microsoft.  I've almost given up reading their publication.

@Bond007

"MSN is just lucky this blunder news did not get leaked to so many Tech news/blog sites like Engadget and Gizmodo."

They most likely have it by now. These sites wont pass up the opportunity to bash the Zune.

The question is which one will be the first to breathlessly get this "news" out first.
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« Reply #7 on: October 13, 2007, 11:50:59 PM »

I was going to post, this article, But I was tired of all this Bad news about the Zunes. Soon people going to wish they had a zune Smiley
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« Reply #8 on: October 14, 2007, 12:58:18 AM »

Have you also seen The 50 best tech products of all time? There are a lot of Apple-products in it. Those guys at PC WORLD are probably some ifanboys.
Maybe they can change their name in MAC WORLD Grin.
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« Reply #9 on: October 14, 2007, 08:11:02 AM »

Have you also seen The 50 best tech products of all time? There are a lot of Apple-products in it. Those guys at PC WORLD are probably some ifanboys.
Maybe they can change their name in MAC WORLD Grin.


What I don't ever see when these lists are cited is good sound reasoning explaining why these products don't deserve their place on it. It's totally possible that, despite everything, that Apple is actually a company capable of building great products from time to time.
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« Reply #10 on: October 14, 2007, 08:19:18 AM »

Have you also seen The 50 best tech products of all time? There are a lot of Apple-products in it. Those guys at PC WORLD are probably some ifanboys.
Maybe they can change their name in MAC WORLD Grin.


Nice find. Out of the whole list they only have two Microsoft products are listed and they are both software related.  Windows 95 and Excel.  Apple has many hardware products and one software, which is Itunes 4.  Their list makes it seem like Apple is only good at hardware and Microsoft is only good at software.  If it was possible maybe Microsoft and Apple should team up to make the ultimate technology product, but I doubt that would ever happen.
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« Reply #11 on: October 14, 2007, 09:09:57 AM »

Nice find. Out of the whole list they only have two Microsoft products are listed and they are both software related.  Windows 95 and Excel.  Apple has many hardware products and one software, which is Itunes 4.  Their list makes it seem like Apple is only good at hardware and Microsoft is only good at software.  If it was possible maybe Microsoft and Apple should team up to make the ultimate technology product, but I doubt that would ever happen.

No Apple investor on earth would ever agree that this would be a good thing, unless they were masochists that liked to lose money.



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« Reply #12 on: October 14, 2007, 10:39:03 AM »

Nice try iKaiser, but critically review some of those items and think about it:

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The 50 Best Tech Products of All Time // Apple Airport Base Station (1999) (© PC World)
34. Apple Airport Base Station (1999)
Apple wasn't the first company to introduce Wi-Fi, but in 1999 its flying saucer Base Station became a visible (and stylish) emblem for the joys of wireless connectivity. Apple was a forerunner when it came to incorporating 802.11b into laptops, and it championed the technology before other vendors did. Nowadays, Apple's Airport Extreme Base Station is a direct descendant of the earlier technology. But even though the company is a relatively minor player in networking hardware, the original Base Station had a powerful influence in the early days of Wi-Fi and helped kick-start the migration to the wireless world as we know it today.
I think it's a very subjective statement to declare Apple a main reason for the wireless world as we know it today.
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« Reply #13 on: October 14, 2007, 03:41:17 PM »

Well blame PC World not MSN they only re"printed" the article... At least they said the zune was the 10th ugliest product, not the first...

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« Reply #14 on: October 14, 2007, 05:46:25 PM »

Nice try iKaiser, but critically review some of those items and think about it:

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The 50 Best Tech Products of All Time // Apple Airport Base Station (1999) (© PC World)
34. Apple Airport Base Station (1999)
Apple wasn't the first company to introduce Wi-Fi, but in 1999 its flying saucer Base Station became a visible (and stylish) emblem for the joys of wireless connectivity. Apple was a forerunner when it came to incorporating 802.11b into laptops, and it championed the technology before other vendors did. Nowadays, Apple's Airport Extreme Base Station is a direct descendant of the earlier technology. But even though the company is a relatively minor player in networking hardware, the original Base Station had a powerful influence in the early days of Wi-Fi and helped kick-start the migration to the wireless world as we know it today.
I think it's a very subjective statement to declare Apple a main reason for the wireless world as we know it today.

Heh, iKaiser. Roll Eyes

The entire article is subjective. I'm sure many here have a totally different list of Best Products Ever as well, and I'm pretty that some will exclude anything with an Apple logo on it on principle. If the list had zero Apple, the list would be either praised for having such great stuff, or simply paid no attention. Heaven forfend someone should actually give recognition to a few Apple products.

Is there a reason why the writer of this article is not entitled to this opinion, and why the product should not be on that list?
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